Sunday, January 10, 2010

Stranger than we can think of....

The AOL welcome page gets me off track every morning....akin to the National Enquirer...with snippets of gossipy info and real news stories you might not find anywhere else...stories that just have to be checked out.  Well, this morning it was a story on the yahoo main page...very similar to the AOL Welcome Screen... that got me.  It was a brief snippet about the Kepler Telescope...a telescope that is scanning the skies of our universe, looking for planets...especially those planets that are similar to earth.  So far, the telescope has honed in on five planets....all too hot (by thousands of degrees) to support life...and one of the planets has the consistency of styrofoam.  It also found two mystery objects.  A snippet from the article follows:

 

By SETH BORENSTEIN, AP Science Writer

WASHINGTON – NASA's new planet-hunting telescope has found two mystery objects that are too hot to be planets and too small to be stars.

The Kepler Telescope, launched in March, discovered the two new heavenly bodies, each circling its own star. Telescope chief scientist Bill Borucki of NASA said the objects are thousands of degrees hotter than the stars they circle. That means they probably aren't planets. They are bigger and hotter than planets in our solar system, including dwarf planets.

The new discoveries don't quite fit into any definition of known astronomical objects, and so far don't have a classification of their own.

Hmmmmm.....we've heard the (bullshit) story about hell being deep inside the earth...proven, of course, by that team of Russian researchers who found it while drilling on the ocean floor. Really...uh-huh...it's true. Check it out HERE if you don't believe me.  But now...perhaps, instead of hell beneath the earth...couldn't it be on one of these mystery heavenly bodies?  My hairdresser in Nashville was convinced hell was in a black hole in space. 

It would not be the first time someone considered this....scientists have already discovered a planet that "literally fits the classic description of hell."   And when I googled to find the original "beneath the earth" article, a you tube link came up with a whole bunch of videos that prove the existence of hell.  Ignore these warnings at your own peril.  When you find yourself in flames that are 26,000 degrees Fahrenheit you will have only yourself to blame!!! 

Sometimes you just have to shake your head in wonder at how ludicrous the belief in a fiery hell really is....definitely worthy of a bit of sarcasm!! How it besmirches the image of our Father...who is love and light...and will have all come unto the knowledge of the truth!!!  But anyway...

All this rambling to simply post the quote from the article that caught my eye....

"The universe keeps making strange things stranger than we can think of in our imagination," Jon Morse, head of astrophysics for NASA. 

Indeed he does....

Thursday, January 7, 2010

Desmond Doss - "I couldn't picture Christ with a rifle killing people."

During New Year's break, Keith watched a movie about Desmond Doss...The Conscientious Objector. It is the true story of Desmond Doss, a World War II veteran who joined the army to serve his country, yet refused to carry a gun or harm the enemy. He did not believe in killing...simply stated...

"I couldn't picture Christ with a rifle killing people."

Wikipedia says:

Desmond Doss refused to kill, or carry a weapon into combat, because of his personal beliefs as a Seventh-day Adventist. He thus became a medic, and by serving in the Pacific theatre of World War II helped his country by saving the lives of his comrades, while also adhering to his religious convictions.

He was tormented by his fellow soldiers, mocked and ridiculed for refusing to carry a gun. Yet he stuck to his beliefs and showed a selfless, christlike attitude toward those who tormented him.

In an article in the Advent News Network the producer of the documentary, Terry Benedict, talks about the profound effect Desmond Doss had on reconnecting him with his faith:

"You think you're living the good Christian life, walking in faith, but when I started the project, I learned what it really meant to walk in faith," Benedict said. Doss, the filmmaker added, "is always at peace and I've learned how to be at peace when everything is breaking out around you. There was no way I couldn't be affected [by Doss' story] and not be a better person."

And when President Roosevelt presented Doss with the medal of honor he said:

“I am proud of you. You really deserve this. I consider this a greater honor than being President.”

Doss was the first conscientious objectors to be awarded the Medal of Honor. (There has been one other conscientious objector awarded the medal of honor.....Thomas Bennet, from the Vietnam War) Doss single handedly...amidst whizzing bullets from the Japanese, lowered seventy five wounded soldiers to safety using a rope he rigged with two loops. He put the legs of the wounded in the loops, wrapped them up in the rope and lowered them down. Most of the men had to be dragged to the escarpment's edge. Doss weighed about 150 lbs. He prayed the entire time...

"Lord, help me get one more. Just ONE more."

After the last man was evacuated, Doss himself made his way to safety. His commanding officer determined that Doss had lowered one hundred men down the cliff....but Doss thought it was probably closer to fifty...so they compromised on seventy five.

One of the articles I read mentioned that once Doss tried to tend to a wounded Japanese soldier. One of the American soldiers with Doss told him that if helped the enemy he would have to kill him. I imagine that Doss' heart was so filled with the love and compassion of Jesus, it didn't matter to him whether the wounded soldier was Japanese or American. He saw a brother in need of help.

What a great story...a true story...of faith and courage. To read more about Doss check out the article HERE and HERE.

Wednesday, January 6, 2010

T'was the Season - Jesus is Ours!

Actually the ponderings in this series are not new. Not too long ago in another post called "None But Jesus" I mused about this same topic. I was spurred on by a comment by Beatrix on a yahoo list I am on.

Beatrix said:

Still our god-imagery is rich in its diversity all around
the world. Perhaps there are many "faces" of God, as
some wise folk have suggested. I have followed the
Continuum of these faces come down through the
ages, but Jesus is ours!

Yesterday while poking around on an ecclectic website called the Reluctant Messenger....a site I am going to post about...I came upon the following

Is Krishna also Christ?

The Master seemed delighted as he started instructing Chester. "In the Bhagavad-Gita, we learn that Krishna created everything and sustains all things by his glory. Chapter 9 teaches that the entire material universe is created, prevaded, maintained and sustained by him. In Chapter 10 we learn that he is the source of everthing and that all existence is because of Lord Krishna. '... I am the seed of all creatures; nothing animate or inanimate could exist without me.'

In John 1 of the Christian New Testament we are taught that 'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.... And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth .... grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.'

We also learn in the Bhagavad-Gita that total devotion to Krishna will allow man to achieve eternal life and never know death again.

In the New Testament we learn that Christ is the the only way. '...that whosoever believeth in Christ should not perish, but have everlasting life.'

What does your logic tell you about this paradox?" The Master waited.

Chester licked his lips. "Here are two different religions revealing to us the creator of all things who, is also the way to achieve eternal life. Either one is a fraud or both are the same holy manifestation recorded at different times from two different cultural and historical viewpoints. The logic is clear and simple."

The Master announced, "The Krishna of Ancient Hinduism is the Christ of Christianity. Christ comes from the Greek word Christos, and Christos is the Greek version of the word Krishna. When an Indian person calls on Krishna, he often says "Krista." Krishna is a Sanskrit word meaning the object of attraction." So when we address God as "Christ," "Krista," or "Krishna," we indicate the same all-attractive Supreme Personality of Godhead. When Jesus said, "Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name," that name of God was Krista or Krishna. "Christ" is simply another way of saying "Krista," and "Krista" is another way of pronouncing Krishna."

How does that fit with what Beatrix had to say about the faces of God down through the ages? But Jesus is ours!!

I do think there are "many faces of God" down through the ages...and...I don't quite know how to reconcile these many faces with the Bible's clear teaching that Jesus is the name above all names. I don't discount the path to God others follow....around the world and down through the ages....but for me...Jesus is the way.

The other night while clicking here and there, I stopped off at my playlists on You Tube. I have several Alan Jackson videos saved because....yes....I really like country music and I really like Alan Jackson. Among them is his rendition of "I Love To Tell The Story"....


The lyrics to the first verse are:

I love to tell the story of unseen things above,
Of Jesus and his glory, of Jesus and his love.
I love to tell the story, because I know 'tis true;
It satisfies my longings as nothing else can do.


Which is sort of what the comment "but Jesus is ours" means to me. There are other faces of God down through the ages...but Jesus is ours and "he satisfies my longings as nothing else can do." He does. While I might read the words of and about Krishna (which I have not yet...but intend to do so eventually) and I might find wisdom and truth there...and it might enhance...strengthen my relationship with and understanding of God...it's just not the same as when I read the words of the Gospels.

There are four verses to the song..and I like them all...but especially the first...and the last:

And when, in scenes of glory, I sing the new, new song,
'Twill be the old, old story that I have loved so long.

1 Oh sing unto Jehovah a new song; For he hath done marvelous things: His right hand, and his holy arm, hath wrought salvation for him. 2 Jehovah hath made known his salvation: His righteousness hath he openly showed in the sight of the nations. Psalm 98....NAS

Monday, January 4, 2010

'Twas the Season....

Well, yesterday morning when I got up and looked at FUBAR (our very, very crooked Christmas tree)  like Jim Carrey in The Cable Guy I declared: "You're Going Down, Red Knight...Down, down, down"  Well...okay I called the tree FUBAR not Red Knight...but it did indeed go down...and out the back door by the trash cans...to await trash pick up on Friday.  I did get a twang of remorse as Keith dragged it out the back door...and thanked it for being our tree this year. I will remember it as the crookedest tree I have ever..ever had.    

The living room is back to normal now.  The trimmings are all packed away... and I've got most of the pine needles vacuumed up.  So kind of...at least here at the McAndrew household...the Season is truly over. 

I know some people celebrate Christmas into January and there are the Greek Orthodox who celebrate the holiday later on....but for most of us, the Christmas season begins the day after Thanksgiving (although I lag way behind there) and it ends on New Year's Day.  For most colleges, winter break lasts longer than that...and there will probably be drastically reduced Christmas merchandise on the shelf across from the Valentine stuff for a while to come...but Christmas 2009 is pretty much over. 

Our celebration was quiet...and on New Year's Eve...while all my offspring were out running around, Keith and I toasted in the New Year here in our living room (no place I'd rather be) with a glass (or two) of wine and a movie.  Silent Night.  Another movie based on a true story.

The story takes place in war torn Germany, at a hunting cabin where a German woman (Elizabeth Vincken) sought refuge from the fighting for her son, Fritz, on Christmas.  First three American soldiers, one severely injured, ended up in their home...followed not too long after by three German soldiers.  Elizabeth was a spunky one...hated war...and insisted that if they were going to seek refuge in her home on Christmas, they would all have to agree to a truce and their guns had to remain outside.  Surprisingly they all agreed. 

It was a heartwarming holiday story...demonstrating that even though people may be very different in many ways, in the end, perhaps we are all more alike than different.  

 

    Silent Night

 

An account of the real, true story can be found here.

And just now as I was going through snippets of info and disjointed thoughts that I have saved for future posts, I came upon a quote that annie posted to EU the other day...a quote by Nouwen:

Being Safe Places for Others

When we are free from the need to judge or condemn, we can become safe places for people to meet in vulnerability and take down the walls that separate them. Being deeply rooted in the love of God, we cannot help but invite people to love one another. When people realize that we have no hidden agendas or unspoken intentions, that we are not trying to gain any profit for ourselves, and that our only desire is for peace and reconciliation, they may find the inner freedom and courage to leave their guns at the door
and enter into conversation with their enemies.

Many times this happens even without our planning. Our ministry of reconciliation most often takes place when we ourselves are least aware of it. Our simple, nonjudgmental presence does it.

Which is exactly what happened in the movie...they left their guns at the door and entered into conversation with their enemies...at the urging..insistence... of Elizabeth.  She did not condemn or judge the soldiers and her home became a safe place for them to take down the walls that separated them.  Great quote...great movie...great (true) story.....

Sunday, January 3, 2010

Who is Jesus? More Christmas Season Ponderings....

About the time some of this other stuff was hitting my inbox, the following was posted on the Thomas Merton list where I am a (lurking) member. 

Charles Brittain from Oklahoma City, writes:
I am a progressive Christian, one who follows your scholarship and that of my pastor. In fact, you have visited our church and I have heard you speak in person. It was a wonderful experience for me. The problem I'm having at this present holiday season is that the scholarship and the traditional Christmas music and the visuals are not in agreement with each other. I feel that I abandon my intellectual knowledge when I participate in the traditional forms of Christmas liturgy and imagery. Can you suggest how that I may enjoy both the scholarship and the traditions of Christmas without feeling conflicted?

 

            Question Mark 5

And Spong has a long answer for this guy....which he starts by saying:

There is no doubt that most people have literalized the images that Matthew and Luke have in their birth stories of Jesus (See Matthew 1-2 and Luke 1-2), but I do believe it is quite clear that neither Matthew nor Luke thought of them as literal events. The great majority of biblical scholars share that perspective.


And then he goes on to present proof that the birth story is just a bunch of hooey...IF we literalize it.  If we don't...if we look for the spiritual implications, well, then...there is a lot there to celebrate and embrace.


The facts are that stars do not travel across the sky so slowly that wise men can keep up with them; angels do not break through the midnight sky to sing to hillside shepherds; and human beings do not follow stars to pay homage to a newborn king of a foreign nation, especially when the same gospel that tells us this story also tells us that Jesus was the son of a carpenter. To continue this train of thought, no real head of state, including King Herod, would deputize eastern magi that he had never seen before to be his CIA to bring him a report of this threat to his throne. That is the stuff of fairy tales. 

A star does not lead magi down a wagon track of a road six miles from Jerusalem and then bathe the house in which the baby lies with heavenly light to show these Magi where the child they seek is to be found. Wise men do not bring gifts that symbolize kingship (gold), divinity (frankincense) and suffering (myrrh) that will mark the life of this infant. No one is that prescient. 

Virgins do not conceive except in mythology, of which there were many examples in the Mediterranean world. Kings do not order people to return to their ancestral home for enrolling for taxation. There were 1000 years between David and Joseph, or some 50 generations. David had multiple wives and concubines. In 50 generations, the descendants of David would number in the billions. If they had all returned to Bethlehem, there would be no wonder that there was no room at the inn! 
 
A man does not take his wife, who is "great with child," on a 94-mile donkey ride from Nazareth to Bethlehem so that the expected messiah can be born in David's city. One lay Roman Catholic woman theologian said of that account, "Only a man who had never had a baby could have written that story!" No king slaughters all the boy babies in a town trying to get rid of a pretender to his throne, especially if everyone in that town would have known exactly which house it was over which the star had stopped and into which the Magi had entered. The whereabouts of the "pretender" to Herod's throne would not have been hard to identify if this were a literal story that really happened.


Certainly, both Matthew and Luke were aware that they were using these stories to try to interpret the power of God experienced in the adult life of Jesus of Nazareth. Matthew drew his wise men story out of Isaiah 60, where kings were said to come on camels "to the brightness of God's rising." They came bringing gifts of gold and frankincense. Matthew expanded this story with details drawn from other biblical narratives like the visit of the Queen of Sheba to King Solomon and the truckload of spices (myrrh) that she brought with her (see I Kings 10) and the story of Balaam and Balak from Numbers 22-24 in which a star in the East plays a prominent role. Traditional Jewish writings also used a star in the sky to announce the births of its great heroes, Abraham, Isaac and Moses. 

Matthew wrapped his interpretation around the well-known story of Moses. That is why he repeated the story of Pharaoh killing the boy babies in Egypt at the time of Moses' birth, transforming it to be a story of Herod killing the boy babies in Bethlehem at the time of Jesus' birth. 

What these narratives were designed by the gospel writers to proclaim are: 
   1.. Human life could not have produced the presence of God that people believed they had met in Jesus. 
   2.. The importance of his birth was symbolized by having it announced with heavenly signs, a star in Matthew and angels in Luke. 
  3.. In the life of Jesus, they believed that heaven and earth had come together and that divinity and humanity had merged. 
  4.. Messiah for the Jews had many facets. Messiah had to be both a new Moses and the heir to the throne of David. The Moses claim was in the story of how Jesus was taken by Joseph down to Egypt so that God could call him as God had called Moses out of Egypt. The heir to David was the reason his birth was located in David's place of birth (Bethlehem) instead of in Nazareth, where Jesus was in all probability born. 
  5.. This Jesus draws the whole world to himself, even the Gentile world of the Magi as well as the humble lives of the shepherds.

These are the interpretive details of the Christian myths. All of them came into the Christian faith only in the 9th decade. None of them is original to the memory of Jesus. Neither Paul nor Mark had ever heard of them. John, the last gospel to be written, must have known of these birth traditions, but he doesn't include them and, on two occasions, calls Jesus the son of Joseph (see John Chapters 1 and 6). 

Given these pieces of data, there is no way the authors of the Christmas stories in the Bible thought they were writing literal history. They were interpreting the meaning they found in Jesus. As long as we understand that, I see no reason why we can't sing, "While shepherds watched their flocks by night" or "O, little town of Bethlehem" even if there were no shepherds who attended Jesus' birth and the probability is that he was born in Nazareth, which is what the first gospel Mark assumes. 

As far as I know, adults don't believe there is a literal North Pole inhabited by a jolly elf named Santa Claus, who harnesses his toy-laden sled to his reindeer in order to bring gifts to all of the children of the world on Christmas Eve. Yet we still sing, "Rudolf, the red-nosed reindeer" and "Santa Claus is coming to town" without twisting our minds into intellectual pretzels.

My suggestion is that you separate fantasy from history and then enter into and enjoy the fantasy of the season. Dream of Peace on Earth and good will among men and women, and then dedicate yourself to bringing that vision into being. In that way you will understand the intentions of the gospel writers.

Thanks for writing. Enjoy the holidays, and Merry Christmas.

- John Shelby Spong

Bishop Spong also has some writings on beliefnet...many about the Christmas question but I noticed that there were also some on the Resurrection. Thinking that he probably sees that as myth too??? 

I am not ready to give up the resurrection.  Doubt of the Resurrection is nothing new...even Paul addressed it....

12 Now if Christ is preached, that he has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 But if there is no resurrection of the dead, neither has Christ been raised. 14 If Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain, and your faith also is in vain. 15 Yes, we are found false witnesses of God, because we testified about God that he raised up Christ, whom he didn't raise up, if it is so that the dead are not raised. 16 For if the dead aren't raised, neither has Christ been raised. 17 If Christ has not been raised, your faith is vain; you are still in your sins. 18 Then they also who are fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19 If we have only hoped in Christ in this life, we are of all men most pitiable. 1 Corinthians

And for another writing that deals with this from a much more traditional perspective, check out Preston Eby's writing Five Reasons Why the Sons of God Should Not Celebrate Christmas. 

Saturday, January 2, 2010

The Message and Mission of Christ Conference

The other day on EU, Dena posted the following link to the 2010 Transmillennial Texas Regional Conference...theme of which is...Jesus.  Following is "e-flyer" from the website.  Their stated purpose is:

Viewing God's redemptive work as truly universal, not just in potential but in fact, not only restores the majesty of God but also answers so many of the nagging issues which trouble Orthodoxy. This understanding, variously known as "comprehensive grace" , "gospel of inclusion", or "ultimate reconciliation", provides a viable biblical viewpoint without many of the logical inconsistencies and obvious ethical problems so pronounced in traditional Christian theology.

It is for the purpose of sharing this new view of God and his purpose for mankind that this web site is dedicated.

The website has quite a few articles that discuss inerrancy, Christianity, Churchianity etc. etc.  The articles I clicked on were not long and drawn out.  Check out the site.  The information about the conference follows:

Theme: The Message and Mission of Christ

The Sjolander Road Fellowship announces the fifth annual Texas Regional Transmillennial Conference for February 5-7, 2010. The conference site will be 4464 Sjolander Road, Baytown, Texas (approximately 30 miles east of Houston, exit 795 off Interstate 10).

Many would probably assume that the message and mission of Christ are too well known and understood to be the topic of discussion in any meaningful way. In the conventional understanding Jesus was the God sent Savior who died to pay the price for all mankind's sins and thereby make it possible for those who "accept" Him as Savior to enjoy the blessings of Heaven. Under this paradigm, mankind's sin, or lawbreaking, is the problem which separates God and man, and Jesus primary mission was to end this separation by appeasing God. Supposedly, all these "facts" are biblically indisputable.

Well, are they really? This gathering proposes to challenge an array of speakers of various backgrounds to re-examine the entire issue of what Jesus came to do and how He accomplished that mission. The problem with much that passes for Bible study is that it starts off assuming much and challenging and confirming very little. It is the desire of the organizers of this year's conference, that speakers feel perfectly free to question everything, leaving no assumption of Orthodoxy untouched. Let the evidence speak. Any quest to find a more reasonable and majestic God in the Bible cannot be condemned, except by those who have a vested interest in the fearful status quo.

Individuals interested in participating in the presentations and discussions in person are encouraged to see our website,www.knowingtodaysgod.com, or to contact us at rlcppc@aol.com or 281-383-7054 for details, including a schedule of speakers. As an alternative, anyone can hear all the presentations live on-line, making arrangements by e-mailing Kevin Beck at Kevin@Presence.tv.

Friday, January 1, 2010

'Tis (Still) the Season - The Christ Is NOT a Person???

Well, in my web browsing this morning...I visited a forum called Now For You Forum.  I am a member there...but mainly lurk.  This morning, on a whim, I clicked on the forum's icon on my AOL "carousal" aka "bookmarks bar" and after a short meander around the site, I came upon the following intriguing thread, The Christ is NOT a person....

Hmmmm...I know that Christ means "the anointed" and is not (as Keith has said to me numerous times) Jesus' last name.  Pondering how this relates to being "in Christ" is beyond the scope of this post.  I read that there are 88 occurrences of the term "in Christ" in the New Testament.  Again beyond the scope of this post, but might make an interesting series of posts at some point in the future. 

The thread on the Now forum was about the book, The Christ is NOT a Person available on Amazon and all over the place, including Google Books which offers a limited preview (the happy medium between "snippet view" and "full view")  I also found the author's (J.C. Tefft) website which gives a lot of information about the book, including excerpts, reviews, summary and a link to an ongoing series of podcasts where the author discusses the teachings in the book.  The following from the website:

Listen in each week from November, 2009 through February, 2010, as JC takes you on an evolutionary journey through time. Shows are archived, so you can listen to your show of choice at any time.

Some of the titles include:

Who Wrote Biblical Scripture?  Is it Fact, Fiction, or Both?

The Advent of Man, as Metaphorically represented by Adam and Eve

and several others that deal with:

  • What is true faith – not Jewish, Christian, or Muslim faith, but true faith? What is the nature of revelation and insight? We’ll explore how the Biblical stories of Abraham and Jacob reveal an ever-growing deepening of an awareness within Man that is above and beyond the self, as seen through the lens of the ancient mind.
  • How did Moses become the first Hebrew priest and prophet? Was Moses a miracle worker, or an enlightened being who was largely misunderstood in his own time?

I haven't listened to any of the podcasts, although I would like to...and may.  Anyone who listens to the podcasts are encouraged to post comments below.  Or anyone who happens to read the book...

The book has been endorsed by Eckhart Tolle, by the way.