Sunday, August 16, 2009

Interesting Website - Nisargadatta...Osho

But I digress...well, not just yet... but I'm going to.  I started to look at some of the verses that use the Greek word translated as "eye/eyes" and found some very interesting verses.  They birthed some of those lightening quick thoughts that come fast..almost too fast to really think them..but you try (usually in vain) to slow them down because you know there is some significance to them.  They are elusive.  Sort of like a name of a person or a movie you are trying to remember. It keeps flitting around in your head but you can't quiet catch the thought.  And so, today, I am not going to even try.  Over the next few day I am going to try to get the thoughts to hold still long enough for me to think them...ponder them and then perhaps write a few lines of worth.  But in the meantime, I came upon a couple of interesting sites today...purely by happenstance.  And so, I am going to post about them. 

On the Now2 yahoo group, someone posted a link to an online         e-book by Timothy Shoorel.  The book is called The Seven Principles of Freedom.  The excerpt in the post was from the chapter about "not thinking." 

How to literally not think So how to not think? We need to consider the thought process. We need to have a better idea of how it works. The thought process is like a train, a steam-train of thought. In order for the train to move, we have to burn pieces of wood in the engine: we have to provide the brain with thoughts. One log feeds on the previous, and this is how we get the train moving. So we keep feeding these logs into the train's engine in order for the train to get moving and gather momentum. One thought feeds on the previous, the momentum builds, and our train of thought gets moving.

This is a train without brakes though, and if we want to stop it, the only way is to let it run out of steam. Of course, if we keep feeding new logs into the engine, the train will never run out of steam.

Gee...sounds a bit like the thought process I was describing in the first paragraph of this post :)

The chapter goes on to discuss letting your train to run out of steam....

On the page that tells a bit more about the author it mentions two of his "gurus." (oh my...what an new agey term THAT is!!!) 

Timothy Schoorel was born in Amsterdam, The Netherlands in 1965. At the age of 15, he decided to become a disciple of the controversial mystic Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, later called Osho.

In 1991, he met Alexander Smit, a Dutch sage who was taught by the famous Advaita Vedanta guru Shri Nisargadatta Maharaj.

In December 1995, Timothy realized his absolute nature, finding the freedom he had intuited since childhood.

And so...I went to the link of these two gurus...and found some interesting stuff there.  But that is fodder for two more posts.  Probably tomorrow and the day after.  Unless of course, the train runs out of steam before then....


Sue said...

That is interesting stuff. Beautifully put. Alive silence - yes :) I read in the "about the author" part of that site something that I'm unsure about. He speaks of how as a wave is part of the sea so is he, and that if a person wants to see themselves as a human being then they will also see him as such.

I understand what he was saying, but I don't feel entirely comfortable with that thought from wthin a Christ context. I'm reading The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying at the moment and struggling in this area too. Of course, it could just simply be egoic struggling but I'm really at this stage just sitting with the not knowing of what I *do* think about that and being aware of what I really want it *to* be - I want to be a separate part, an individual person who continues on. I feel like this man and the BUddhist tradition tap into the same thing I tap into, that vast wonderful losing yourself which I think is God, but I do not want to give up this idea of an individual soul - even though it seems so obvious that I am part of the ocean. Do you know what I mean? Im wondering what you think about that??

Sue said...

PS: I went back and reread part of that site again and I think I sort of misinterpreted what he was saying in one way.

I guess what he's saying is pretty much what Jesus was saying, the old "Withotu me you can do nothing" thing which we think is hyperbole :) Sometimes I think the only reason that we think its hyperbole is because we have evidence every day of us doing something without him ... and yet in oen sense, in the life sense, it is no-thing, this life lived outside of him, the source, the ocean.

I guess that's what I'm thinking today. Thanks for posting that link, I'm fascinated by what he is saying so far and finding it hard to articulate this thing I have on my mind, the same thing I have when I read the Tibetan Book of Living and Dying.

Cindi said...

Hi Sue... have given me much to think about. I want to comment on your comments (since I share some of the same ponderings) but it will have to wait until after work and the other mundane duties and responsibilities of the day...


Manu Namasivayam said...

A comprehensive site about Nisargadatta Maharaj with a large collection of Books, Photos, Videos and many more :

About Nisargadatta Maharaj - Pronunciation & Meaning - Biography - Meet the Sage - Navnath Sampradaya - Nisarga Yoga - I am That - Last Days : Last Teachings - Mahasamadhi - Maharaj's residence - Monuments of Maharaj - The Style of Teaching - Consciousness - My True State - Memories of Maharaj - Narrations by various devotees - The Famous books of Maharaj - Various other books about Maharaj - Traditional scriptures often referred by Maharaj - Where to buy books - A large collection of Photos - Download PrintSize Portraits - Quotes from famous books - Other Related Sites - Videos of Maharaj - Original DVDs - Translations of I AM THAT into various languages